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Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;

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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #20 στις: Δεκέμβριος 14, 2012, 02:29:55 μμ »
Εχω το Seiko Velatura kinetic Direct drive και μονο καλα εχω να πω.
Μαλιστα αν το χρησιμοποιεις περιπου 1 φορα στις 15 μερες σε μια active δραστηριοτητα (καποιο σπορ κτλ) ειναι μονιμως φουλ φορτισμενο

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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #21 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 12:06:33 πμ »
Πληροφορίες για τους μηχανισμούς kinetic από το site της SEIKO.

Eχω δυο kinetic gmt ρολόγια (Caliber 5M65) από τα οποια έχω μείνει απόλυτα ικανοποιημένος. :) :)

http://www.seiko.co.uk/discover-seiko/technology/kinetic

A powerhouse of technological innovation
Like mechanical and quartz, Kinetic is a platform. Over the past 20 years, Seiko has created on this platform a suite of Kinetic movements, each bringing unique features to the consumer.

It was at the 1986 Basel Fair that Seiko unveiled its first Kinetic prototype. Introduced under the trial name of 'AGM', it was the first watch in the world to convert kinetic movement into electrical energy. It was the first step in a development that, 20 years later, has made Kinetic synonymous with environmental friendliness, high performance and long-lasting convenience to a generation of users worldwide. From the launch in 1988 of the first commercially available watch (then under the new name AGS) until today, over eight million Kinetic watches have been sold (as of 2007).

Kinetic Direct Drive
Seiko Kinetic Direct Drive is the embodiment of the Seiko's ‘emotional technology’. It offers valuable additions to the ecological and convenience advantages of every Seiko Kinetic watch.

Two winding functions
As in all existing Kinetic calibers, the wearer automatically generates electrical energy by her/his wrist movement. With Kinetic Direct Drive, however, the wearer can also generate energy by winding the crown.

Ultimate Kinetic Chronograph
The Seiko Ultimate Kinetic Chronograph 9T82 combines the reliability and high accuracy of Kinetic technology with the traditional attributes of the mechanical chronograph. One essential characteristic of the best chronographs is the reset responsiveness of the hands. To return each hand to its starting point instantaneously, this model features a heart cam snap-to-zero arrangement, which has always been an attractive feature of mechanical chronographs. To ensure the smooth movement of the hands and an instant date change, 38 rubies are used in the bearings. In addition a backlash mechanism ensures high-precision movement of the wheels and hands.

Caliber Specification (Caliber 9T82)
Powered by the movement of your body
Duration of full charge: approximately 1 month
Chronograph up to 12 hours in 1/10 second increments
Separate displays for all functions ensure ease of use and high legibility
350 parts
Assembled by hand


Kinetic Chronograph
Unlike conventional watches, the time display dials are arranged in a position outside the center. The center hand is the chronograph second hand that can measure in 1/5-second increments. Hours and minutes of the main watch, showing the present time, are displayed on a dial at the lower position of the face of the watch and the second displayed on a dial at the upper left position of the face of the watch. The chronograph minutes are displayed on a fan-shaped dial at the upper right position of the face of the watch and can measure time up to 45 minutes. A fly-back reset function to simultaneously return a hand to the zero position using the reset button after measurement has been adopted for each chronograph hand, owing to a mechanism that employs a heart cam that is usually used for mechanical chronographs.

Caliber Specification (Caliber 7L22)
Powered by the movement of your body
Duration of full charge: approximately 5 months
Chronograph up to 45 minutes in 1/5 second increments

Kinetic Perpetual
Kinetic Perpetual combines the beauty of a classic mechanical perpetual calendar, correct until February 28, 2100, with the advantage of Kinetic - powered by the movement of your body - perpetual quartz accuracy, and up to 4 years autonomy when not worn.
This caliber is a triumph of classical watch-making and modern microelectronics. With 232 parts, which is almost the same number as other high-class mechanical chronograph watches, and the world's smallest ultra-sonic motor, just 0.4 mm thick, the Kinetic Perpetual caliber sets a new standard in Perpetual Calendar watches.
This 0.4 mm thick ultra-sonic motor is the only motive energy for the 101 parts in the mechanical gear trains of the Perpetual Calendar which correctly displays not only date and day, but also months, including February of leap years.
This remarkable calendar is also governed by a photo sensor, which recognizes a certain mark on each gear and judges, and corrects the date, day, month and year, including February of leap years.
The caliber also incorporates SEIKO's unique Kinetic Auto-Relay technology. It is powered by the movement of your body with Kinetic Perpetual quartz accuracy and reliability. With Auto-Relay, the watch will, when not worn, operate normally for 6 months on a full charge, after which it goes into "sleep" mode for up to four years. The accuracy remains and the calendar continues to show the correct date, month and year, but the hands stop, conserving energy, until, once the watch is put on again, the hands automatically reset to the correct time.

Caliber Specification (Caliber 7D48)
Powered by the movement of your body
Perpetual calendar correct to the year 2100
24 hour hand
Month hand
Leap year hand (7D46 / 7D56)
Leap year disc (7D48)
Power save function
Time relay system preserves accurate time for up to 4 year

Kinetic Auto Drive
Equipped with Sleep Function and Wake-Up Function [Kinetic Auto Relay]
An evolved form of the “Kinetic”; a quartz which features Automatic Generating System that winds automatically by the arm movement to generate electricity to operate the watch. A Kinetic equipped with the power save mode which is activated while the watch is not worn, aiming at continuous operation for a longer period of time.
A power save function (sleep mode) that automatically stops the movement of hands approximately 72 hours after the watch is taken off in order to preserve energy consumption. An automatic time relay function (wake-up mode) that perceives power generation by slight swing motion of the watch and automatically returns to its normal operation to show the present time, provided that the watch is used again within approximately 4 years (on a full charge) after it stopped. Kinetic auto relay is equipped with these two functions.
In our latest model, the technology of Kinetic has further evolved into “Kinetic perpetual” which features a perpetual calendar as well as the Kinetic auto relay function.

Caliber Specification (Caliber 5J32)
Powered by the movement of your body
Time relay system preserves accurate time for up to 4 years

Kinetic GMT
The marriage of Kinetic with a G.M.T. function makes this the perfect travellers' watch.  The hour hand can be set without disturbing the accuracy of SEIKO's unique Kinetic movement, and as Kinetic is powered by the movement of your body, this streamlined and refined new timepiece offers the international traveler a unique combination of elegance, powerful design and ‘set & forget’ convenience.

Caliber Specification (Caliber 5M65)
Powered by the movement of your body
Duration of full charge: approximately 6 months
Power reserve indicator at the press of a button
G.M.T. hand with easy hour hand adjustment function
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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #22 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 04:44:32 μμ »
Αν σκεφτει καποιος το κοστος όμως της αλλαγης του πυκνωτή που παει περιπου από 60 εως 70 ευρω
ενώ το κοστος σε μπαταριες θα είναι περιπου 12 ευρω τοτε;

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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #23 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 06:09:28 μμ »
Το κοστος εμενα δεν μου λεει πολλα, ο πυκνωτης στα kinetic που βγηκαν μετα το 2000 κραταει πανω απο 10-15 χρονια ενω μπαταρια θες καθε 3-4 χρονια (άσε που οι τιμές έχουν πέσει στα 20-25 Euro http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221915477226?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1006886&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-146857552866&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122&ul_noapp=true).
Αυτο που με τραβαει στα kinetic ειναι οτι αντιθετα με τα quartz και τα Solar δημιουργει μια προσωπικη επαφη μεταξυ του χρηστη και του ρολογιου που βρισκεις μονο στα αυτοματα, συνδιαζοντας ιδανικα τα υπερ των 2 τεχνολογιων.
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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #24 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 06:41:05 μμ »
Αν σκεφτει καποιος το κοστος όμως της αλλαγης του πυκνωτή που παει περιπου από 60 εως 70 ευρω
ενώ το κοστος σε μπαταριες θα είναι περιπου 12 ευρω τοτε;
40 ευρώ Άρη μέσα στη seiko πριν 2 χρόνια σε δικό μου δύτη. ... και δεν αλλάζουν μόνο τον πυκνωτή αλλά και ενα εξαρτημα του ροτορα φόρτισης και κάτι άλλο που δεν θυμάμαι συν ότι έγινε κανονικά έλεγχος στεγανοτητας και το ρολόι μου παραδόθηκε με γραπτή εγγύηση για άλλο ένα έτος (η εργοστασιακή είχε παρέλθει ), βέβαια το ότι τα έφτυσε ο πυκνωτής ήταν καθαρά σφάλμα δικό μου  (πολύμηνη ακινησία ).

Μετά βέβαια ανακάλυψα εντελώς τυχαια την πατεντα με τον φορτιστή της braun (για την οποία έχω ανοίξει ξεχωριστό θέμα ) και έκτοτε τα κινετικ μου είναι πάντα πλήρως φορτισμένα κι ας μην φοριούνται. ;)
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« Απάντηση #25 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 06:43:15 μμ »
Γιωργο 70 ευρω λιανικη πριν λιγες ημερες.

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« Απάντηση #26 στις: Μάρτιος 28, 2016, 07:13:26 μμ »
Γιωργο 70 ευρω λιανικη πριν λιγες ημερες.
Ωχ.....μέσα σε 2 χρόνια τα διπλάσια χρήματα σχεδόν, μια χαρά....
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Απ: Τελικά τί κάνουν οι kinetic;
« Απάντηση #27 στις: Μάιος 24, 2016, 08:14:06 πμ »
Εχω απ το 2005 το arctura kinetic auto relay και μεχρι στιγμης 11 χρονια μετα δουλευει σαν καινουριο!

Θα δειξει...